1. - ConservativeVeteran - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:15 pm:

   Rosanna isn’t a fringe candidate. A fringe candidate is an unusual, unpopular candidate. Rosanna agrees with at least 90% of the republican platform, unlike some republican politicians. She’s pro-life, pro-gun rights, pro-tax cuts, and pro-border security. If she wins, she would be the best U.S. rep., elected from Cook Co., this decade.




2. - Obamarama - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:25 pm:

   Conservative Veteran,

   Did you not read any of the post? How do you defend the comments she made? More importantly, how do you defend your statement that she would be the best Congressman elected in Cook this decade in light of these ridiculous and insensitive comments.

   Perfect example of why the Cook GOP is in the state it is. Bad candidates, even worse supporters.




3. - Speaking at Will - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:27 pm:

   Not every day do we get a Cap Fax post that combines the Ku Klux Klan, Illegal immigration, Slavery, Homosexuals, and the Bible! All packaged up by the latest Republican Corvair Candidate.




4. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:31 pm:

   As crude as those remarks are, there is legitimate accademic research to back up the contention that illegal immigration has caused **immense** harm to impoverished African-Americans and that most comprehensive immigration reform proposals will do far worse. That’s why liberals like Paul Krugman and Nat Hentoff have come out against it. Check out George Bojras at Harvard or Carole Swain at Vanderbuilt. To use just a couple of anectodal examples, in last year’s high profile immigration raid of a New Jersey factory, most of the replacement workers were previously unemployed African-Americans. Or consider the case of rich white politically connected women such as Arianna Huffington or Judge Zoe Baird: the idea that there wasn’t an unemployed African-American woman in all of NY or California willing to take work as a well paid nanny strains credulity. Clarence Page and Morton Anderson have noted in both local papers that illegal immigrants (not just Mexican but Irish and Polish as well) empower white racism because they take jobs that African-Americans are indeed “willing to do” — and in past decades had.

   As for the Ku Klux Klan, remember that former Mexican President Vincente Fox just years ago not-to-subtly called African-Americans racist and vehemently defended putting a thick-lipped characature on their postage stamps.




5. - Captain America - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:32 pm:

   If what the Conservative Veteran said is true, then Republicans will be a minority party forever in Illinois, despite the corruption of the Democratic party. Know-nothingism and anti-immigrant bigotry does not constitute a valid foundation for political victory in a multi-ethnic metropolitan community like Chicago built on the blood, sweat, and tears of immigrants.




6. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:34 pm:

   I’m sorry, I meant to write that Fox called African-Americans lazy. One other point: the only time in my lifetime when African-Americans have risen economically faster than society in general was the mid-to-late 1990s. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this was a period of high demand on the low-skilled section of the job market and that this improved prospects for uneducated workers and thus had a disproportionate benefit on African-Americans.




7. - The 'Broken Heart' of Rogers Park - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:35 pm:

   Oh, no… This can’t be good for the campaign.




8. - Gregor - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:38 pm:

   To be fair, her speech probably read better in the original German. Goodbye, Rosanne, we hardly knew ye, and it seems fortuitous now. You have to be rich like Chopper Jim to campaign like this.

   On the serious side, some day I would like to actually see a viable republican candidate again on a state level. But at this rate, I may be too old to go to the polls by the time they train up a new generation of decent candidates. It has to start at the local grass-roots level, school boards, aldermen, county boards, then mayors. Start the kids off right in school, leave all the old failed ideas behind and start fresh. That’s the only way.




9. - make it so - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:44 pm:

   This women is a bigot. She should read the good book, especially the part about love one another, instead of thumping it.




10. - Bob - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:45 pm:

    What most disturbs me about Pulido is her hatred of Mexicans - as if the fact that she is Mexican somehow softens the blow. Racism is racism and none of us should tolerate racist representation.




11. - Eighty - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:49 pm:

    Obamarama, I’m pretty sure ConservativeVeteran means that anyone other than a Democrat (even someone who supports hanging elected officials for their views) is better than any Democrat. I think the best way to react to irrationality is not with questions, but with hearty, unbridled laughter.

    You’re right; the IL GOP is getting their just desserts. Even worse, they’re going to keep shouting in circles and blaming Teh Machine Demz for their demise.




12. - Carl Nyberg - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 12:52 pm:

    I liked Pulido’s quote about arming the Chicago Police Department with AK-47s for an immigrant rights rally.

    Pulido cares so deeply about American workers she wants the government buying weapons made in Russia.

    Also, at a VFW forum Pulido claimed the Blagojevich administration spent millions on making illegal aliens citizens.

    The woman makes no distinction between legal immigrants and people who have overstayed their visas.




13. - scoot - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:19 pm:

    WOW…lets get this election over in a hurry before she becomes a virus for other GOPers!




14. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:27 pm:

    I noticed nobody here is addressing a single point on substance. Is it not true that opinion polls show negative attitudes against African-Americans are widespread in Latin America? Is it untrue that African-Americans are losing political power because of the demographics of illegal immigration? Does illegal immigration depress working class wages, like Krugman and Kristof and the scholars I cited say? Does illegal immigration contribute to school overcrowding (answer: apparently yes, but surprisingly studies do not show it has had a major impact on health care services)?

    Pulido may be another Alan Keyes as her Bible comments suggest, but it would be nice if people could argue with her on principle and not just throw insults.




15. - rachel - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:27 pm:

    If the RNC gets wind of her, she could be a running mate to Palin.




16. - ConservativeVeteran - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:27 pm:

    I’ve known Rosanna for 2.5 years, so I know that she doesn’t hate Mexicans. She hates people who violate American laws.




17. - ZC - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:34 pm:

    lake county democrat,

    What precisely is the principled response to Pulido’s post that Muslims at prayer remind me “of my dog, smelling buts”?

    A wack-job can raise some valid points and still be a wack-job. I’d prefer to spend time arguing (and electing) a sane person, who makes the same points. You, for instance, sound like a thoughtful individual. If I were you, I’d make the arguments, but distance myself from Pulido.




18. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:34 pm:

    ===She hates people who violate American laws.===

    This, of course, fully explains her position on gays.

    Puh-leeeze.




19. - Shore - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:41 pm:

    One of the reasons I am not sad to see all the reporters at the trib and sun-times lose their jobs is the lack of serious in depth political coverage at either paper.

    Not only should they cover this woman-she would represent 650,000 people in congress while those chicago aldermen they cover represent 5,000-they should spend more time on the illinois republican party. Less ink from the sun-times on the appointment of the latest deputy assistant undersecretary of the bureau of administration and compliance or from the trib on how gay bars don’t allow bachelorette parties would free up space for more important matters.




20. - Bob - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:41 pm:

    ConservativeVeteran - It’s great that you’ve known Rosanna for 2.5 years. I’ve known of her for 2.5 months. In that time, I’ve found that she:

    Agrees that Mexicans are the KKK with a tan - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961110/posts

    Hates Spanish so much that hearing it enrages her - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938112/posts

    Thinks that theft is an integral part of the Mexican culture - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932960/posts

    Note that none of those have anything to do with illegal immigrants. She’s a racist. This raises an interesting question - how well do you really know her?




21. - fedup dem - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:43 pm:

    Pulido is SO BAD that I will be forced to vote for Quigley, even though his election means that Toddler Stroger and his handlers will gain effective control of the Cook County Board for nearly 20 months. But as big a disaster as that will be, voting for an extremist bigot like Pulido is even worse.




22. - Justice - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 1:57 pm:

    I have traveled extensively around the US and every where I go I see Mexican workers. From my on personal experience they are hard working and family oriented. This holds true to Guatemalans and Colombians. I didn’t check to see if they were legal, but they were working! As to the AK47….a sweet rifle! Used it in Nam., along with a bolt action 30 caliber Remington with a Redfield scope.




23. - wordslinger - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 2:03 pm:

    ==She hates people who violate American laws.===

    Roseanne should stop thumping that Bible and start reading it.

    1 John 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

    1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

    Is it possible that Keyes and Pulido are part of some diabolical Democratic conspiracy? Is there a more reasonable explanation?




24. - steve schnorf - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 2:09 pm:

    Sweet Jesus. Just when you think you’ve seen it all….




25. - Chad - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 2:12 pm:

    What a sad commentary on who the GOP is putting forward. Apologists for these types of comments should be ashmed of themselves. I presume she would run for state central committee in the 5th if SB 500 were to become law. Would the Cook GOP back her then?




26. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 2:13 pm:

    ZC:

    Point taken, but what do you do when your choice is between the wack job vs. the sane person who you think will do grave harm? In this case I agree that she goes beyond the pale (see Rich’s hightlight on gays), but some of the quotes he put up do not support that, and the reflexive response in some of the early comments go to the need for substance I’m writing about.

    PS: I need to say it somewhere: Congrats to Waukegan on a great season and near-legendary comeback against Whitney Young!




27. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 2:35 pm:

    ===some of the quotes he put up do not support that===

    Are you referring to Mexicans as the new KKK, or Obama selling his race back into slavery, because I’m totally confused here.

    How can you have a meaningful discussion with somebody who says things like that? Seriously, please enlighten me.




28. - Anonymous - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 3:25 pm:

    Is it suprising that when people call a political party’s headquarters to volunteer for a candidate that won the party’s nomination in a contested primary that the party would get them a yard sign or pass the volunteer over to the campaign?

    I think Rich is trying to make something of nothing on a 3 week old local news story on NBC (wonder if some democrat operative pitched it to him?)




29. - Louis G. Atsaves - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 3:30 pm:

    You are seeing the results of some handiwork by some extreme conservatives who behave like lemmings in our GOP party.

    They were busy castigating Andy McKenna a week and a half ago at a party open meeting in Lake County for not throwing all of the GOP’s resources in support of Pulido, and for not calling Washington’s RNCC to send in the calvary.

    When Pulido loses, they will blame McKenna “for his lack of support”, and not Pulido and her views. If McKenna had come out in strong support of one of the other GOP candidates, they would have blamed McKenna for influencing the primary so that a “True Republican” (in their eyes) would not win that primary.

    And so the endless treadmill that the Illinois GOP is on continues.




30. - I'm not saying, I'm just saying - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:01 pm:

    It’s a three week old story, I’m not sure on that one, but does it negate her racist statements,

    Oh we should forgive David Duke, he’s kept his mouth shut for years :) (Well he’s been in federal Prison) But at least his mouth was shut :)

    wow, Lou Atsaves is right, here we go again blaming the Democrats for your problems…..




31. - wordslinger - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:28 pm:

    You know, the Illinois GOP really needs to take a public stand on this. They could use the fight as a rallying point for true conservative values party-building.

    There are many examples in American history when a party had to take a stand to keep the extremes out.

    One was the DFL in Minnesota, where the Humphreys, Mondales and Andersons successfully fought, sometimes mano a mano, like hell to expel the Communists, all the while backing Civil Rights and fighting the Birch/McCarthy GOP on other fronts.

    Or, on the other hand, you could look at the Iowa GOP, where the Main Street GOP went like lambs to the slaughter when the Pat Robertson folks took over the state party.




32. - Angry Republican - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:29 pm:

    I think my handle says it all; and no I am NOT a RINO. We would have been better off having Rush Limbaugh run for this seat because he would get more votes than Pulido.




33. - Bakersfield - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:41 pm:

    this is exactly why I encouraged my GOP friends in the 5th to vote against this woman last month.

    And for those who are blaming the GOP for putting her forward, remember that she won the votes of 800 people…I don’t think the GOP deserves much of the blame for the votes of the extreme fringe.




34. - EmptySuitParade - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:49 pm:

    It is only Monday and the Circular Firing Squad is fully engaged. Shoot, Aim, Ready
    and we were worried the retired of ChopperJim might leaves short handed. It looks like we have found BrickHeadJoe’s running mate.
    Good Luck GOPS.




35. - Recall Brendan Reilly - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:49 pm:

    Just imagine the outrage if she used the word “retarded” to describe current immigration policy.




36. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:50 pm:

    Rich, in response to “===some of the quotes he put up do not support that===

    Are you referring to Mexicans as the new KKK, or Obama selling his race back into slavery, because I’m totally confused here.”

    1) As I wrote and maybe you missed, I said some of her comments were beyond the pale and that she was another Alan Keyes. That said, when the PRESIDENT OF MEXICO uses polite language to call African Americans a bunch of lazy you-know-whats (which was protested by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton but largely ignored in the mainstream media) and polls show some pretty deep racism among Latin Americans against African-Americans (which presumptively would be reflected by illegal immigrants from those nations) there are a few grains of truth in some of those statements (”will unleash real racism”, “they hate blacks”).

    Rich, I guarantee you that if illegal immigration had the same effect on upper class jobs that the research shows it has on the working class and African-Americans in particular, half the pols out there would be Tom Tarcreno clones.

    Again,




37. - Carl Nyberg - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:55 pm:

    lake county dem, can you provide a link to the research you claim definitively shows immigration hurts low-wage workers?




38. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 4:56 pm:

    P.S. For the record, I’m not in favor of criminalizing illegal immigration, expodentially more raids or mass migrations. I am in favor of draconian penalties for employers of illegal immigrants and a system that gives U.S. citizens a real first shot at the alleged jobs that Americans won’t do. Note that the politicians in both parties could have spent the last two years getting the employment verification system proposed in the last failed attempt at reform up and running (it was estimated that it would take two years had the bill passed) to get ready for whatever reform eventually passed.

    Finally, a comment that may seem cruel but it’s a cruel world: the status quo is not all that bad a deal for illegal immigrants. Ask someone in a Darfur refugee camp how they would like a chance to make what illegal immigrants here make, with emergency health care, education for their kids, and most importantly citizenship for their children born here. I’m just saying it’s not immoral to take care of our poor first.




39. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 6:04 pm:

    Carl:

    http://borjas.typepad.com/

    If you scroll down just a little, you see he discusses on study (he co-did with two others) which says that the effect of illegal immigration from 1960 - present caused African-American unemployment to increase nearly 6%, and decreased African-American wages 2.5%.

    It should also be noted that Cesar Chavez was an opponent of illegal immigration for the same reasons — he knew how powerful business interests would use it to undermine labor power.




40. - lake county democrat - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 6:07 pm:

    Professor Carol Swain’s website: http://www.carolmswain.net/

    THough I don’t have links, there were studies out of, as I recall, U of California Berkely supporting the Proposition 11 balot initiative in California showing that the costs of illegal immigration on the state substantially outweighed the benefits (in taxes, etc.) For more cites I would dig up Nick Kristof and Paul Krugman’s NY Time columns from the period when this was a hot political topic (I think their recent archives are free, but not certain).

    As I said, I am aware of one study that theorized illegal immigration was putting a strain on US Healthcare but did not find a substantial effect.




41. - mover631 - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 7:45 pm:

    This stuff came out when the guy from ICIRR(The postings on free republic) challenged the signatures. Anyone here knows you have to read the whole posting to know what roseanna was writing about, you can’t take one posting from maybe 100 on a subject and say you understand the topic or what the conversation had turned into. Rich I am surprised you don’t realize that!
    This was all put out by Joshua Hoyte in the primary down to the very Free Republic posting we are talking about here.




42. - Joshua Hoyt - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 9:37 pm:

    Hi, this is the Joshua Hoyt, who as an individual and voter in the 5th CD, challenged Ms. Pulido’s candidacy. And now you know why!

    I was trying to spare the voters Ms. Pulido’s unhinged rants, and the GOP the shame of having to claim her as one of their own. At least now everyone knows just how odd this lady is.

    Pity she stayed on the ballot. She filed 702 signatures, but had only 369 valid ones… However the R’s in my district are so weak she only needed 319. So now we have to let the voters end this farce and send her back to wherever Mr. Oberweis is now.

    p.s. NOONE likes illegal immigration, which is why some of us are working so hard to find actual solutions, instead of spouting rhetoric and hate.




43. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 9:59 pm:

    ===you can’t take one posting from maybe 100 on a subject and say you understand the topic or what the conversation had turned into. Rich I am surprised you don’t realize that!===

    We get plenty of posts here where conversations go all over the place. I would’ve deleted every one of those comments if she tried to make them here.

    I understand perfectly well. I’m surprised you think I’m stupid.




44. - I'm Just Saying - Monday, Mar 23, 09 @ 10:08 pm:

    Okay, I was looking at the Excellent CQ Politics District by District break down of the 08 Election and http://innovation.cq.com/atlas/district_08 I pulled the Obama V. McCain numbers for IL-5, Obama pulled 73%, I wish you guys lots of luck, that and a miracle, you’ll need both to win this one :)




45. - mover631 - Tuesday, Mar 24, 09 @ 1:13 am:

    why delete the questions? Who pays for their rallies? who pays for the buses?




46. - Bubs - Tuesday, Mar 24, 09 @ 2:03 am:

    I will not support Ms. Pulido at all if she stands by rhe statements above, and several others that are not even on here. I suspect she knows exactly which ones.

    I hope the relevant GOP Chairmen will do the same.




47. - Voice of reason - Tuesday, Mar 24, 09 @ 2:19 am:

    Oh no, “Bubs” is off the campaign. Well that’s the first good news Pulido’s had.

    Unfortunately, the Cook GOP has no “volunteers, signs and grassroots support” to give. Roupas is clueless.

    I’m not real excited about Pulido’s campaign myself, and that district is unwinnable for any Republican right now anyway.

    But she’s far from the nuttiest candidate the GOP’s ever fielded in Illinois.

    I think you’ll find many more bats in Topinka’s belfry for example, and much crazier quotes. Like remember when Judy said her rolling pin was an assault weapon?




48. - Common Sense - Tuesday, Mar 24, 09 @ 10:41 am:

    It appears Ms Pulidos political policy views actually reflect mainstream American values. Her position on immigration reflects the views of an overwhelming majority of Americans of all political persuasions. She is a strong supporter of the US Constitution and the protections it provides for our God-given rights. Those enumerated rights include the RIGHT TO LIFE.

    If you want to criticize her for standing up for the rule of law and our constitution, that reflects more on you than on her. She has something that is precious today: intellectual honesty and the courage to stand by what is right. It is no surprise that leftists would attack a conservative latina and try to marginalize her for being “off the reservation” and not towing the (marxist) party line of Saul Alinsky and fellow travelers.

    It should come as no surprise that her campaign finds its greatest support among seniors, veterans groups, Chicago Policemen and Chicago Firemen. Her endorsements include Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Lake County, IL Sheriff Mark Curran, Jr. These individuals witness the real impacts of illegal immigration on America. They see firsthand the disproportionate carnage on our highways and streets by unlicensed, uninsured illegals. They see our overcrowded jails and prisons filled with illegal alien gangs incarcerated for violent crimes against our citizens. These are real impacts for them every day.




49. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Mar 24, 09 @ 10:42 am:

    Common Sense, it appears you have neither.




50. - Common Sense - Tuesday, Mar 24, 09 @ 10:48 am:

    Mr Hoyt advocates widespread disregard for the rule of law. Apparently that also includes his own using of the 501(c)3 not-for-profit charitible status of his Blagojevich-funded ICIRR for thinly veiled political purposes.

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