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* Background is here if you need it. Could this be true?…
Of course not. It’s Jeanne Ives, for crying out loud. She’s never been a reliable source of facts.
The fact that she served three terms in the Illinois House may lead people to think she can accurately comment on legislative proposals. But notice she doesn’t provide a link to the bill so you can’t just easily click here and look for the repealer language and see for yourself as plain as day that what’s being repealed are the three sections creating non-binding referendums.
Ives ought to know this because those three referendums were specifically created to prevent her own statewide referendum from seeing the light of day because Illinois limits the number of statewide questions to three.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I refuse to believe Ives is that spectacularly dumb.
* And Ives wasn’t alone…
Here’s the actual part Rep. Miller is upset about. It’s on page 18-19 and as you can clearly see, the section referenced in Miller’s post is not the same section as the part he is upset about. There is no repeal of this part #twill https://t.co/pgfOUD9c5N pic.twitter.com/2o7lMRyDom
— Ben Szalinski (@BenSzalinski) May 6, 2024
posted by Rich Miller
Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 12:39 pm
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==Maybe I’m wrong, but I refuse to believe Ives is that spectacularly dumb.==
Okay, but we can agree Chris Miller (no relation) probably is, yes?
“protective their members”
Comment by Roadrager Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 12:43 pm
Twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber.
Comment by Hank Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 12:44 pm
Jeanne Ives is lying for political effect?? Say it ain’t so.
Comment by New Day Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 12:48 pm
Can’t let facts get in the way of a good political narrative.
Comment by Panther Pride Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 1:02 pm
I think what irritates me the most about this is the number of people who are going to believe what they are saying. What’s that saying? You can’t fix stupid.
Comment by Demoralized Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 1:04 pm
Anonymous commenters are always deleted.
Comment by Rich Miller Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 1:28 pm
Outright deceit ought to be disqualifying. Intending to deceive with demonstrable lies violates the idea of democracy in the first place.
Comment by H-W Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 1:29 pm
I just find myself wondering what Ives’ exceptional engineering-major children (or now engineers, since they presumably graduated with multiple degrees at the top of their class years ago) think of the whole thing. /s
To the Ives question, I’ve never been able to decide if I think she is that dumb or that calculating.
Comment by Leslie K Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 1:36 pm
Years ago, when she was in the General Assembly, I had to explain to her a section of the Pension Code that she clearly did not understand.
Comment by Retired SURS Employee Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 1:54 pm
Meh. Not any worse than Gov. Pritzker calling it an ethics bill.
If the goal was to get the echo chamber to talk about a very bad bill, that part worked.
Comment by Professor Ath Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 2:04 pm
“Three percent” of citizens lie for political reasons /s
Comment by Vote Quimby Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 2:04 pm
“Not any worse than Gov. Pritzker calling it an ethics bill.”
I’d say explicit lies about a bill’s content are considerably worse than a possible mischaracterization — but we all make our own ethical choices, don’t we?
– MrJM
Comment by @misterjayem Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 2:30 pm
===Not any worse than Gov. Pritzker calling it an ethics bill===
Meh. The post-primary appointment was one of MJM’s favorite gimmicks. Wouldn’t wanna die on that hill.
Either way, there’s enough to criticize here without having to resort to bumbling or outright lying.
Comment by Rich Miller Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 3:03 pm
Years ago we had strong, partisan arguments about legislation but neither side resorted to outright fabrications. This is not the Ronald Reagan, Jim Edgar GOP I grew up with.
Comment by low level Tuesday, May 7, 24 @ 8:21 pm
Putting Ives and Miller aside it’s a weak move. Just adds fodder for the people who believe elections are rigged. The Dems moved the primary up for Obama back in the day then back to March subsequently. They have a huge super majority and still feel compelled to rush this through. An Ethics bill? He knew what he was saying. Weak.
Comment by Eire17 Wednesday, May 8, 24 @ 5:55 am